Użytkownik "kamil" <k...@s...com> napisał w wiadomości
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> On 27/06/2012 09:57, Marcin [3M] wrote:
>
>>> Gdzie tu te twoje "kierowcy suv-ów są właściwie tak samo narażeni jak
>>> inni uczestnicy ruchu"?
>>>
>> Ile SUV-ów zarejestrowanych jest jako kolejny samochód do "celów
>> specjalnych" (np. ciągnięcia przyczepy w wakacje? Znajomi mają coś
>> takiego właśnie do tego celu.)
>> Biorąc pod uwagę koszty jazdy, kłopoty z parkowaniem większego pojazdu
>> itp. jest to tam całkiem realne.
>> Jeżeli statystyka powiedziała by coś w przeliczeniu na przebieg wozu -
>> to o'k.
>> Poczytaj jednak o urazach odnoszonych w trakcie kolizji. Tu statystyki
>> nie mówią nic o korzystnego "zyskach" z inwestycji w SUV-y.
>
>
> Czytałeś materiał, na który się powołujesz?
>
> 3.5.3 Occupant protection
> Various studies have shown that when two cars collide then the risk of
> injury is lower for the driver of the larger car (the studies focus on the
> risk to the driver to avoid bias due to the variable number of passengers
> per car by vehicle type). Most recently, Broughton (2007) found that when
> analysing British data. In particular, he found that the lowest fatality
> rate (per million car-years) in 1999-2003 was for drivers of 4-wheel drive
> cars and people carriers. Toy and Hammit (2003) also found using USA crash
> data that SUVs, vans, and pickups offer more protection to their occupants
> than other passenger cars. This was most pronounced for pickups, with
> drivers of pickups facing one third of the risk of serious injury of car
> drivers. While vehicle mass and crash severity contribute to the apparent
> occupant safety, other vehicle characteristics associated with body type
> (e.g., the stiffness and height of the underlying structure of the
> vehicle) also influence the risks.
>
>
>
Pytanie o kontekst żródła cytowanego w pracy. W tym wątki pojawiały się dane
wskazujące na podobne bezpieczeństwo SUV-ów i innych samochodów. W kolizjach
nie ma wątpliwości, że mały samochód zostanie zmiażdżony. SUV ma dużą szansę
na wywrotkę (zresztą nie tylko w wyniku kolizji), która w Londynie nie
zachodzi zbyt często (pewnie ze względu na małą prędkość ruchu.:

6. Are occupants of SUVs more at risk than occupants of non-SUVs of being
involved in overturning collisions?

SUV occupants were more at risk than occupants of non-SUVs of being involved
in overturning collisions in London. The risk of overturning was greatest
for drivers of large SUVs (their cars overturned for 21% of occupants who
were killed or seriously injured) and least for the medium (4.7%) and
small/medium passenger cars (5.6%). However, the risk of a car overturning
in a collision in London is lower than for Great Britain as a whole; 6.4% of
car occupants who were killed or seriously injured in London were injured
when their cars overturned, compared with 15% for Great Britain. This may be
because London road network is predominantly urban and low speed or due to
car fleet differences.

http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/assets/i
mages/2002/Aug-26-2002/SUV-report.pdf

CONCLUSIONS

1. Midsize and Large Cars. The safest midsize and large cars (Avalon, Camry,
and Accord)

are as safe as the safest SUV (Suburban); average midsize and large cars are
just as safe

as the average SUV. However, SUVs impose a greater risk on drivers of other
vehicles

than do all types of cars. The combined risk of the average SUV (129) is
about 30%

higher than that for the average large car (100) and 25% higher than that
for the average

midsize car (105), while the safest SUV (Suburban, 111) has at least a 40%
higher

combined risk than the three safest midsize and large cars (Avalon, 63;
Camry, 72; and

Accord, 79).

2. Subcompact and Compact Cars. The safest subcompact (Civic and Jetta) and
compact

(626 and Altima) car models are as safe to their drivers as the average SUV
(see Figures

2 and 3, and Table A5 in the appendix). When one considers the combined
risk, including

those killed in the other vehicle in two-vehicle crashes, then the safest
subcompact and

compact models are actually safer than the average SUV. Moreover, the
combined risk

for the average subcompact or compact car



Dominik zwrócił uwagę, iż tyczyło sie to starych pojazdów. Zamieszczone
wyniki innych badań wskazują na podobne bezpieczeństwo w samochodach
ososbowych i suv-ach.

Powtórzę zatem jeszcze mój wniosek: suv dając złudę bezpieczeństwa, nie
pozostawia szans współudziałowcom kolizji.