Dr. Dobbs pisze:

"The greatest effect these changes have had on software development is
the requirement of multiple languages. Web apps, by definition, are
multilanguage beasts. Many mobile apps require more than one language;
and even if they can be written in one language, they often rely on a
Web- or cloud-based back-end that's written in an entirely different
language. And, of course, big data is written using all forms of
specialized languages. We have had to become polyglots to develop
almost any current application. As a result, when the research and
analysis firm Forrester recently surveyed our readers about how much
time they spend writing in any given language..."
...
"The movement from few to many languages has important ramifications.
For example, it's now more difficult to find programmer talent that
satisfies all the needs of a project; and it's more difficult as a
programmer to be deeply fluent in all the necessary languages and
idioms. These obstacles might suggest division of labor along the
lines of programming languages (which likely reflect different
concerns and separate components), but as the first chart shows, this
is not happening..."


Calosc:

http://www.drdobbs.com/parallel/the-quiet-revolution
-in-programming/240152206

A.L.

P.S. To rowniez kontrybuuje do dystkusji "jaki jezyk jest najlepszy".
Z powyzszego artykulu wynika odpowiedz: ten WLASCIWY

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A.L. <a...@a...com> wrote:
> Dr. Dobbs pisze:
>
> "The greatest effect these changes have had on software development is
> the requirement of multiple languages. Web apps, by definition, are
> multilanguage beasts. Many mobile apps require more than one language;
> and even if they can be written in one language, they often rely on a
> Web- or cloud-based back-end that's written in an entirely different
> language. And, of course, big data is written using all forms of
> specialized languages. We have had to become polyglots to develop
> almost any current application. As a result, when the research and
> analysis firm Forrester recently surveyed our readers about how much
> time they spend writing in any given language..."
> ...
> "The movement from few to many languages has important ramifications.
> For example, it's now more difficult to find programmer talent that
> satisfies all the needs of a project; and it's more difficult as a
> programmer to be deeply fluent in all the necessary languages and
> idioms. These obstacles might suggest division of labor along the
> lines of programming languages (which likely reflect different
> concerns and separate components), but as the first chart shows, this
> is not happening..."
>
>
> Calosc:
>
> http://www.drdobbs.com/parallel/the-quiet-revolution
-in-programming/240152206
>
> A.L.
>
> P.S. To rowniez kontrybuuje do dystkusji "jaki jezyk jest najlepszy".
> Z powyzszego artykulu wynika odpowiedz: ten WLASCIWY
... wiesz, jezyk zabezpiecza tez po czesci od okreslonych bledow,
wiesz wyobraz sobie pisanie np opisu stron zamias html w jezyku ze wskaznikami ;-)
Warto poczytac aby zrozumiec te kwestie:
https://twitter.com/AdamPrzybyla/status/339638562469
343232
Z powazaniem
Adam Przybyla

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On 08/06/2013 03:54, A.L. wrote:
> Dr. Dobbs pisze:
>
> "The greatest effect these changes have had on software development is
> the requirement of multiple languages. Web apps, by definition, are
> multilanguage beasts. Many mobile apps require more than one language;
[...]

Czytałem to jakiś czas temu. Faktycznie widać taki trend, widziałem
kiedyś nawet kolesi opowiadających jak zrobili serwis na połączeniu Ruby
i Erlanga.Natomiast widać też, że to jest problemem - z kolei w którymś
Open Source Journal był artykuł o Clojure właśnie w kontekście
zastosowania "serwis WWW w jednym języku" - nawet zastępując nim
JavaScript przy użyciu narzędzia ClojureScript.

> P.S. To rowniez kontrybuuje do dystkusji "jaki jezyk jest najlepszy".
> Z powyzszego artykulu wynika odpowiedz: ten WLASCIWY

Ewentualne istnienie relacji lepszości nie implikuje istnienia
najlepszości - raczej to jest "partial ordering".

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On Sat, 8 Jun 2013 06:33:56 +0000 (UTC), Adam Przybyla
<a...@r...pl> wrote:


> ... wiesz, jezyk zabezpiecza tez po czesci od okreslonych bledow,
>wiesz wyobraz sobie pisanie np opisu stron zamias html w jezyku ze wskaznikami ;-)
>Warto poczytac aby zrozumiec te kwestie:
https://twitter.com/AdamPrzybyla/status/339638562469
343232
>Z powazaniem
> Adam Przybyla

Dziekuje za oswiecenie mnie o domain specific languages. Prosze
rowniez o jakies uzyteczne infornacje na temat zarowki. Tak w ramach
podwyzszania poziomu mojej edukacji

Ale co to ma wspolnego z teza gloszona w artykuke?

A.L.

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> A.L.

to przeslania plynace z europy juz Ci nie wystarczaja?

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On 2013-06-08 04:54, A.L. wrote:
> Dr. Dobbs pisze:
>
> "The greatest effect these changes have had on software development is
> the requirement of multiple languages. Web apps, by definition, are
> multilanguage beasts. Many mobile apps require more than one language;
> and even if they can be written in one language, they often rely on a
> Web- or cloud-based back-end that's written in an entirely different
> language. And, of course, big data is written using all forms of
> specialized languages. We have had to become polyglots to develop
> almost any current application. As a result, when the research and
> analysis firm Forrester recently surveyed our readers about how much
> time they spend writing in any given language..."
> ...
> "The movement from few to many languages has important ramifications.
> For example, it's now more difficult to find programmer talent that
> satisfies all the needs of a project; and it's more difficult as a
> programmer to be deeply fluent in all the necessary languages and
> idioms. These obstacles might suggest division of labor along the
> lines of programming languages (which likely reflect different
> concerns and separate components), but as the first chart shows, this
> is not happening..."
>

Czas na MDA?

--
Michal

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A.L. <a...@a...com> wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jun 2013 06:33:56 +0000 (UTC), Adam Przybyla
> <a...@r...pl> wrote:
>
>
>> ... wiesz, jezyk zabezpiecza tez po czesci od okreslonych bledow,
>>wiesz wyobraz sobie pisanie np opisu stron zamias html w jezyku ze wskaznikami ;-)
>>Warto poczytac aby zrozumiec te kwestie:
https://twitter.com/AdamPrzybyla/status/339638562469
343232
>>Z powazaniem
>> Adam Przybyla
>
> Dziekuje za oswiecenie mnie o domain specific languages. Prosze
> rowniez o jakies uzyteczne infornacje na temat zarowki. Tak w ramach
> podwyzszania poziomu mojej edukacji
>
> Ale co to ma wspolnego z teza gloszona w artykuke?
... ze nie da sie uzyc jednego jezyka bo to nie jest efektywne i moze
generowac bledy. Z powazaniem
Adam Przybyla

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On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 18:37:08 +0200, Michal Kleczek
<m...@k...org> wrote:

>On 2013-06-08 04:54, A.L. wrote:
>> Dr. Dobbs pisze:
>
[...]
>>
>
>Czas na MDA?

A co to ma wspolnego z cytowanym artykulem?

A.L.

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On 2013-06-09 16:00, A.L. wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 18:37:08 +0200, Michal Kleczek
> <m...@k...org> wrote:
>
>> On 2013-06-08 04:54, A.L. wrote:
>>> Dr. Dobbs pisze:
>>
> [...]
>>>
>>
>> Czas na MDA?
>
> A co to ma wspolnego z cytowanym artykulem?
>

Zwiazek jest luzny...
Ale jest :)

--
Michal

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takie podejscie ze jeden jezyk juz nie wystarczy ma
swoje zle strony np takie ze jak ktos 'rozszerza'
sie po tematach (i np poswieci rok czy 10 lat by
troche sie doauczyć tego rok czy kolejne 10 lat by
douczyc tamtego to moze mu zabraknac czasu na samo
proramowanie czegos zwartego i z sensem - widze po
sobie ;/

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