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On Friday, 1 December 2023 at 16:37:20 UTC+1, Jarosław Sokołowski wrote:
> Pan Arnold Ziffel napisał:
> >>> Niektóre serwery tną u siebie posty z Google.
> >> Jakiś konkretny przykład?
> >
> > news.nk.ca
> >
> > https://www.nk.ca/blog/index.php?/archives/5812-Goog
le-Groups-usenet-posts-banned-from-news.nk.ca-nntp-s
erver.html
> Z tekstu wynika co innego. Nie tną "bo to Google", tylko właśnie
> zablokowali, bo pojawił się spamflood z tego miejsca. Całkowicie
> zrozumiała i prawidłowa reakcja -- o takiej pisałem wcześniej.
> >> Tnące ruch z anonimizerów, to owszem, bywały.
> >
> > Tak, pamiętam. Sam przez jakiś czas ciąłem. Ale to było... hmm, dawno.
> > Na pewno z 10 lat temu.
> To jednak przyniosło dobre rezultaty. Ludzie nie lubią pisać na Berdyczów,
> zobaczyli, że ich pisanina z anonimizerów trafia w próżnię i zaczęli ich
> unikać. To samo można było zrobić z Google -- dziesięć lat temu.
> >> Spam zawsze był elementem "normalnego ruchu" w Usenecie. Taki sam
> >> element lokalnego folkloru, jak każdy inny. Mam wrażenie, że ilość
> >> spamu wcale nie wzrosła ostatnio. Tylko wcześniej rozkładał się na
> >> wiele grup, teraz skupił się tam, gdzie pozostał szczątkowy ruch.
> >
> > Ten spam raczej nie jest kierowany do czytelników. IMO to ma za zadanie
> > manipulować wynikami wyszukiwania.
> Ale trafia akurat na grupy "popularne", a nie te zapomniane od lat.
> > A czy nie wzrosła... były potężne floody, grupom pl.* dostało się
> > głównie tajskim floodem.
> Wyłączyłem filtry i obejrzałem. Nie taki potężny, wydywałem podobne.
> Od lat z Google idzie głównie spam, żywi ludzie są tam mniejszością.
> > On nadal trwa, głównie na pl.soc.polityka (i np. na francuskiej grupie
> > dotyczącej polityki, nie pamiętam nazwy), ale jest cięty przez chyba
> > każdego admina, który dogląda serwera, a nie tylko go postawił i
> > zapomniał o nim (bo ten flood mocno obciąża spool).
> Kiedyś bywały takie zapomniane serwery, z czasem opanowywane przez
> spamerów. Ale bardzo szybko je odcinano. W całości, a nie że admini
> się głowili, jak by tu filtr napisać i kogoś nie skrzywdzić. Dzisiaj
> takim mieniem porzuconym jest Google News. Chyba nikt się tym już nie
> zajmuje, nikomu tam na niczym nie zależy. Dlaczego nie zrobić jak w
> news.nk.ca?
>
> [...]
> >> To jak ci ludzie radzili sobie kilkanaście lat temu? Jeśli ktoś wtedy
> >> subskrybował kilka grup, każdego dnia mógł dostawać przeszło tysiąc
> >> wiadomości. Tego wszystkiego nie da się przeczytać, bo można zwariować.
> >> Jeśli ktoś wówczas miał problemy z filtrowaniem, musiał sam posiąść
> >> umiejętność selekcji. Nie zachował jej do dzisiaj?
> >
> > Nie wiem, pytaj tych, którzy mają z tym problem :)
> Ja mam pytać?! To nie ja staram się im matkować!
>
> --
> Jarek
Ten server kanadyjski to jakaś patologia

Tam nie ma ruchu wejściowego, ani wyjściowego, to po co cokolwiek filtrować

Inny kanadyjski serwis pogodowy rządowy, też jest patologiczny, bo podaje codziennie
inną temperature minimalną z przeszłości w Eureka, Kanada

Wrzuciłem to na grupę soc. bo tam siedzą Kanadyjczycy

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